Council Minutes : February 26, 1996
FORT MYERS BEACH
TOWN COUNCIL MEETING
FEBRUARY 26, 1996
St. Raphael's Episcopal Church
5601 Williams Drive
FORT MYERS BEACH, FLORIDA
I CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was opened at 6:40 P.M. by Ted Fitzsimons,
Vice Mayor, with a pledge of the allegiance to the flag followed
by a prayer.
Present at the meeting were: Ted Fizsimons, Vice
Mayor and Council Member; Marsha Segal-George, Interim Manager;
Attorney Richard Roosa, and Council Members Rusty Isler, Ray Murphy,
and Garr Reynolds. Mayor Anita T. Cereceda was unable to attend
the meeting.
II READING AND DISPOSAL OF UNAPPROVED MINUTES
Motion: Made by Ray Murphy
and seconded by Rusty Isler to accept the minutes of the meetings
of January 29, February 2, February 6 and February 12. Passed
unanimously.
III PUBLIC COMMENTS AND INQUIRIES
A. Bill Whittaker
Mr. Whittaker identified himself as a business
owner on Fort Myers Beach for 18 years, and a property owner and
taxpayer for 17 years on the Beach. He stated that everything
that was important to him was on the Beach, but that it was his
understanding that because he didn't live on the island he was
not qualified to serve on the Fort Myers Beach Town Council or
on the committees, while a one-year resident who did not pay taxes
could serve.
Ted Fitzsimons stated that the town had not yet
established a policy of eligibility.
IV PRESENTATION BY MR. LOUIS G. MACRI, DIRECTOR,
LEE COUNTY DIVISION OF MANAGEMENT INFORMATION
SERVICES
Mr. Macri, with some assistance from Mr. Bill Hammond,
also of MIS, explained the services that MIS can offer the new
town of Fort Myers Beach. Mr. Macri said that as we started looking
at our coordination needs for the city, he would like to offer
their MIS systems to help us get started. They can give the town
direction in purchases of PC equipment, knowing that there will
be a lot of communication between the town and Lee County. They
can help us set it up and get started. They can supply the technical
assistance we will need.
Some of the things we can expect to be involved
with are:
a. getting property records
b. dealing with county attorneys
c. other organizations; the CRA
Mr. Macri said he would like to explore our needs
in a workshop.
Mr. Roosa advised that the planning department downtown
has a system on their computers that draws out a picture of the
property you are looking at, the zoning. Will that system be
available? he wanted to know. Technically, it can be done, Mr.
Macri advised.
Could we teleprocess data into the system downtown?
Mr. Fitzsimons asked. Mr. Macri advised that if we used the
same computer software as the county uses, which is Word Perfect,
we could teleprocess information to them and from them.
Rusty Isler wished to know if interoffice communication
required dealing with a lot of different people in the county,
for instance, someone in the planning department, someone else
in payroll. He was advised by Mr. Macri that the Clerk of Court,
Charlie Green, takes care of payroll and that MIS has nothing
to do with that. However, they do have the configurations for
the other services.
With computer hookups, could we pull up most of
the county programs and review them from our office? Garr Reynolds
inquired. Mr. Macri replied, If you are going to be looking at
property, you can go through the hookup and look at property records,
look at zoning issues, etc., and you can print them up at your
office. He advised that even though there are different constitutional
offices in the county, they were all linked together.
If we don't need full-day access, can that be adjusted?
Mr. Reynolds asked.
Mr. Macri saId it was up to us.
Rusty Isler inquired about pricing and Mr. Macri
advised they charge out all services and that this is a direct
charge system. The costs will be based upon our needs.
Mr. Fitzsimons wanted to know how flexible the system
would be. He was advised that they can be very flexible since
our needs aren't known yet. They can set up the system for six
months with a 30-day out or a 60-day out.
Do you provide the equipment, too, or do you put
your program on existing equipment? Mr. Isler asked. He was
told they do a little bit of both. Most people who are buying
PCs pay for them directly. MIS will do the configurations and
set up, however.
V CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING
THE TOWN TRAFFIC ADVISORY COMMITTEE
A. Providing Qualifications of Members
Marsha Segal-George
read a memo to the Town of Fort Myers Beach from ATC. The memo
stressed that candidates for the committee should not be restricted
to Estero Island residents, but instead should be chosen on the
basis of their qualifications. "Let us not be foolish enough
to believe that only we know what is best." Mr. Roosa said
that he disagrees strongly with this thinking, that he feels that
Fort Myers Beach's traffic problem is their own problem, and that
any committees here should be manned by people from this community.
Everyone should be welcome to attend the committee meetings and
give input, but when it comes down to making decisions within
that committee on what needs to be done, he feels that the voting
privilege belongs only to island residents who pay taxes. He
does not feel that this is unfair, unreasonable or uncommon.
He believes that all towns feel the same way. Ray Murphy said
he doesn't feel that anyone off the island would be interested
in being on a Fort Myers Beach traffic committee, but if they
had a vested interest in it, they should be given an application
along with island residents and serve in an advisory capacity.
There are more people who are taxpayers in this
community who are non-residents than are residents, according
to Ted Fitzsimons. So the taxpayer member of this community,
whether it is a business taxpayer or a resident taxpayer, is a
very significant element of this community. Mr. Fitzsimon's personal
inclination is to delay formalizing a traffic committee and to
actively promote the activity of the previous traffic committee
that has existed until we see it not performing or providing input
to us. We should also recognize that they would now have a different
environment to work under.
Mr. Roosa said that one of the greatest resources
we have in this community are our volunteers. If you were to
develop a comprehensive plan using only paid personnel, it would
cost you a fortune. He feels that a committee is the way to go
and that if you don't formalize and identify that committee you
would be missing the boat, missing the opportunity to get some
talent and effort from people that you otherwise would not get.
As far as committee members being residents of the island, certainly
that is a proper, legal classification and you are required to
be a resident voter of the island or you can't be on the town
council. However, if you wanted to expand committee membership
to include people with business interests on the island, or in
the alternative property owners, Mr. Roosa feels that would also
be valid.
B. Purpose and Scope
Attorney Dick Roosa said that he thought the most
important thing when considering a resolution is the purpose and
scope of it. Committee members should know what their area of
responsibility is.
Ted Fitzsimons said that your objective would be
that every time you send your committee out to identify the traffic
problems, to propose a plan of action to address these problems.
Many of the traffic problems that we deal with in our town are
offshoots of traffic situations that exist around us. To what
degree would our purpose and scope in Section III of the Resolution
limit us in any of those aspects, or does it not? Mr. Fitzsimons
asked. Mr. Roosa replied that he didn't think we would be limited
in our efforts.
Do we have a parameter for deciding whether to
make a committee, and if we do, is the traffic problem one of
the things that needs to have a dedicated committee? Mr. Isler
asked. How did we decide that this needed to be a formal committee?
Is it going to do us some good, accomplish something? A land
use plan is mandatory but not a traffic committee. Mr. Roosa
answered that he felt the issue of a committee depended on the
desires of the council. It would seem to me, he said, if you
ever needed a committee for anything, you would need a committee
to address the traffic problem and come to the council and give
recommendations. Committee people should be working for you to
save you time in solving problems. You identify the problem,
and when it is a problem that is too big ... then it is appropriate
for a committee.
Should it be a formalized committee established
by resolution of the town council, Ted Fitzsimons wanted to know,
or can we get away with having the committee exist with a liaison
person from the town council as a communicator between the committee
and the town council, thereby removing some constrictions and
restrictions? We are trying to be small and bare bones, according
to Rusty Isler, and he doesn't feel we need a formal committee.
We've had an informal committee that has done a good job. Why
formalize the process? What's wrong with the way it has been
done?
Garr Reynolds feels that we would move faster with
a formalized committee but would go along with whatever the council
wants.
Marsha Segal-George feels we should have a standing
invitation to any groups that have traffic committees. In this
way we could see what the hot issues are and how we want the committee
to operate, be better able to address our priority lists. She
asked the council to consider a workshop to brainstorm the traffic
problem. Discussion ensued on which groups should attend the
workshop.
VII PUBLIC HEARING AND FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE
ESTABLISHING THE TOWN LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY
The state says we have
to have a local planning agency and this ordinance would establish
that, Ted Fitzsimons said. It is also required by statutory law
that there is a formal reading of the heading of the ordinance:
This will be identified as Ordinance 96-02, an
Ordinance
Establishing the Town Local Planning Agency, Providing
Authority; Agency Established; Composition and
Appointment; Qualifications of Members; Purpose
and
Scope; Member's Term and Vacancies; Forfeiture
of
Office; Compensation of Members; Election of Officers;
Duties of Officers; Clerk; Rule and Procedures;
Employment of Staff and Experts; Reimbursed Expenses;
Supervision of Staff; Functions, Powers and Duties;
Cooperation with LPA; Severability and Effective
Date.
The draft that we have of this ordinance is eight
pages, Mr. Fitzsimons advised. It will be available at the library.
Mr. Isler noted that it said that the town council
will select the seven members. What criteria are we going to
use in the selection to see that the community as a whole is represented?
he wanted to know.
Mr. Fitzsimons said he is assuming they will select
applicants from letters and resumes they submitted. Mr. Roosa
advised that usually notices are posted that applicants can apply.
Each council member could select an applicant and then two could
be elected generally. Or collectively, you could appoint all
seven of them. It was noted that the county commissioners each
select one applicant. The town, which has only five members on
the council and not seven like the county commissioners, would
rotate two of the applicants.
It was established that it is a statutory requirement
that the applicants must be town residents.
Members will be appointed to fill a vacancy between
now and January, but the first full year begins in January when
there will be new appointees or reappointees.
The town manager is the Clerk of the LPA.
March 11 will be the second reading of this proposed
ordinance.
Mr. Roosa advised that the town council is the present
local planning agency but that the ordinance will delegate their
involvement to a new local planning agency. There is nothing
wrong with getting it going as quickly as possible and letting
people know that it is time to apply, Mr. Roosa noted.
Comments were requested from the audience regarding
the proposed ordinance.
Robert Gaydos advised
that he had sent in a resume when a notice was placed in the paper
asking for applicants to an advisory board committee.
VIII COUNCIL MEMBERS' ITEMS AND REPORTS
A. Ordinance
Mr. Roosa was asked
by Mr. Reynolds if he had heard anything more about the ordinance
enforcement of . Mr. Roosa replied that the county attorney
had recommended that the town council request that the county
commission adopt an ordinance including Fort Myers Beach as part
of the area covered by the ordinance and they had agreed to disagree.
The county attorney said that the ordinances no longer applied
because we have incorporated and Mr. Roosa says they still apply.
The county commission is not likely to go against their attorney,
so the result will be that we'll end up going before a judge.
Rather than go through litigation which requires a minimum of
45 days, and even if we could get that accelerated there would
be the expense of a litigation and the time involved, he has told
me that the ordinance would be very simple and straightforward
and would just say that the following ordinance applies to the
town of Fort Myers Beach. With that kind of language, I don't
see how we could go wrong. He would like for the town council
to request the county commission to adopt such an ordinance.
Motion: Made by Garr
Reynolds and seconded by Ted Fitzsimons that Mr. Roosa follow
through on the ordinance and supply whatever it needs to satisfy
the county attorney and the commissioners. Passed unanimously.
Mr. Roosa advised that the county attorney had promised
to accelerate the ordinance, give it priority.
B. Acknowledging Letters
Ted Fitzsimons asked what the procedure was when
people wrote letters to the council. Mrs. Segal-George said she
waited for input from the council before trying to answer a letter,
unless it was a routine one. Mr. Fitzsimons said he didn't think
it was their responsibility to advise people on financial planning
or purchases. We should acknowledge that we have received a writer's
letter, however.
C. Sea Turtle Ordinance 89-09
Garr Reynolds stated
that we have been asked to please adopt this Lee County ordinance
regarding sea turtle regulations. The sea turtle season is from
May 1 to October 31. He asked Mr. Roosa if they could adopt the
ordinance as it is or if they needed to make any changes.
D. Incinerator Assessment
Mr. Reynolds also noted that some businesses on
the island are being assessed for the incinerator. He would like
to know more about it, that it was something they should look
into. Marsha said the town might want to go the same way that
Sanibel has. Mr. Roosa said the way it was explained to him was
that this was an extra assessment beyond the regular bill.
E. Millage Rates
The appraiser will be coming up with some millage
rates that will take effect before October 1 and they might want
to get a handle on that and see if the town has anything to do
with that, Mr. Reynolds stated.
F. Town Attorney at Workshops
It was debated whether or not the attorney needed
to attend workshops. Mr. Roosa said that it would be better for
him if he did not have to attend the workshops, but he feels that
it is important for the council to have an attorney present anytime
they meet. An emergency situation could come up where they would
want to enact an ordinance, or there may be some legal issues
they might want to address. But if the council feels they would
rather meet without him, he would have no problem with that.
He feels that he could get the information he needs from the minutes.
However, weak links in your armor are issues that ultimately
show up in litigation. In Cape Coral, the attorney does not attend
most of the workshops. However, 90% of the workshops are held
by their staff members and the attorneys are right there in the
building (they have three), so all they have to do is pick up
the phone and call one. Mr. Roosa said he would be available
by phone if he didn't attend the workshops.
Motion: Made by Ted Fitzsimons
and seconded by Rusty Isler to recommend to Attorney Roosa that
his attendance at workshops would not be a requirement of the
council. Passed unanimously.
Whenever they feel he is needed at a workshop, the
council will so advise Mr. Roosa.
G. A Poll on the Issue of the Moratorium
Marsha Segal-George
read from Anita T. Cereceda's memo that she recommends to the
town council that they conduct an informal poll among the people
of the community regarding their views on the moratorium. Rusty
Isler said he didn't like the idea. Garr Reynolds didn't see
any need for one nor did he feel it would prove anything. Ray
Murphy didn't care for the idea either.
H. Bay Development Concerns
Mr. Fitzsimon's advised
that he has heard there is an organization forming on the other
side of the bay about the bay's level of development, particularly
in the watersheds. The entire coast of the bay from the Imperial
River to the Estero River is now privately owned and it looks
like public access to the bay north of the Estero River is going
fast too. There are some people in the Pelican Landing area who
are trying to organize a coalition of groups and organizations
around the county to get the county's attention focused on the
water quality of the bay. Significant people are giving their
support, like Bill Hammond, the environmentalist, who is strenuously
supporting an item to be on the referendum this November requesting
that people support a millage to acquire land for conservation
purposes throughout the county. Bill Hammond was involved in
the Cypress Slough acquisition, which was very successful.
I. Manager's Items and Reports
1. We got our first check from the state today, Marsha
Segal-George reported. The check is in the amount of $8,000.
2. We now have the compilation figures from the university.
Our application has been accepted and we're in.
3. We need to get rolling on the local gas tax allocation.
There is a statutory allocation or you can negotiate. We should
approach the county commission for input.
4. On the agenda of the county commission for Wednesday
is the pool funds. They plan on moving the funds to unallocated.
Marsha and the Mayor plan to attend the Wednesday meeting and
address two things with them:
a. that the pool funds not be transferred until the
council meets with them and discuss the larger issue of all of
these funds;
b. to personally ask the county commission to hold
a meeting with the town council.
5. There is a need to hire an administrative assistant
and a clerk for the manager's office. They are presently being
assisted by volunteers and a recording clerk from Kelly Services.
Someone is needed in the office from 8:30 A.M. to 5:00 P.M.
Ted Fitzsimon's told Mrs. Segal-George that she would have to
tell the council what she needs to get the job done. Ray Murphy
and Garr Reynolds said she should prepare a report on what the
duties of an assistant town manager should be, what would be the
salary requirements. The assistant should be computer literate.
Mrs. Segal-George definitely needs help with the phones. Last
week there were about 30 calls a day.
6. Mrs. Segal-George asked for suggestions for workshops.
Suggested workshops were:
1. public records
2. budget
3. taxes
4. meet with county commissioners
7. Need purchase approval on:
1. advertising, copying
2. folding chairs
3. remodeling of the town hall
4. installation of a locked mail box at the ramp
entrance, 20"long and 15" tall, with a slot of 1-3/4".
It would be postmaster approved.
5. conference table and chairs
Spent on furniture to date:
1. two tables at $39.95 each
2. 33 chairs at $16.50 per chair
From the county warehouse they have gotten the
following:
1. five desks
2. a podium
3. map racks
4. bookcases
Motion: Made by Ray Murphy
and seconded by Rusty Isler to approve payment of the current
bills and also the three proposed items. Unanimous approval.
Discussed was the advisability
of eliminating the post office box. Also discussed regarding
the remodeling was creating an office for Marsha that is 10'x17'
and getting the meeting room capacity up from 76' to 90'. Paper
and carpeting inside the rooms are part of the bid, but carpeting
and paper outside the offices are extra. Marsha was thanked for
doing a fantastic job.
8. The meeting for Monday, March 4, will be held
at St. Raphael's Church again, at 6:30 P.M. The following Monday,
March 11, they will hopefully meet at the Town Hall in NationsBank
at 6:30 P.M. They have been prevented from meeting at NationsBank
because of the handicap access which isn't available to them until
the bank closes at 4:00 P.M.
J. County Attorney Items
1. Reported by Attorney
Roosa was that he had received a letter from David Owen with regard
to continuation of the services for road repairs and building
responsibility. Mr. Owen said that rather than doing it the way
we have in the past, he would prefer that we do it by interlocal
agreement. He will get back to Mr. Roosa as soon as the staff
has reviewed this.
2. Two letters were received by Mr. Roosa from
Attorney Bigelow with regard to the two lawsuits that he has filed.
One lawsuit regarded legal issues as to whether or not it is
appropriate for the hearing officer to have a view. The facts
of the case were such that the hearing office went out to the
property and made an inspection of the property and came to a
factual conclusion as a result of that inspection. The legal
question is whether it is proper for a hearing officer to do that
without having all the parties present. In a court of law it
is pretty clear that that would not be appropriate because both
the plaintiff and the defendant should have the right to point
out to the judge the conditions that would be most favorable for
their position. In any event, what he's proposing is that because
that was so prejudicial, the appropriate thing would be for us
to agree to have a rehearing with the town council.
The other case, dealing with Mr. Shenko versus
the County, has to do with sending out notices to property owners
stating that if you have an objection, you can send your objection
to the hearing examiner. Then at the hearing, the hearing examiner
refused to consider the objections because they don't meet the
requirements of competent and substantial evidence. His position
is that there is a defect in the hearing and again he offers the
solution that the easy way to resolve this without a lot of expense
would be for you to rehear that case. Attorney Roosa said he
had talked to the county attorney on this second case, and there
is a county decision on this very point, the defect in the notice,
and the circuit judge in Lee County has ruled that that's not
a proper defect, it did not invalidate the proceedings.
In either event, Mr. Roosa said, it seems there
are some procedural issues that need to be resolved in these cases
before we get to the merits of the case. But because of an offer
of settlement, what he would like for the council to do is just
assume the authority and say you will rehear these cases. That's
not my recommendation because ... whatever we do, we should be
protected by an order of the judge. And there are other parties
involved in this litigation at this stage, or at least they are
attempting to intervene. So it would be my recommendation that
we not take any action until those issues are resolved and some
of the more serious procedural issues that are involved, some
that may never let the judge get to the merits of the case. But
I am obligated to bring any offer of settlement. By the way,
as Tom Pritt explained to you, if we wanted to have a meeting
on strategy or if we wanted a meeting with regard to settlement
of litigation, that could be done in an executive session.
Mr. Bigelow suggested that I might want to do that,
but I said I had no objection to him being in attendance and listening
to everything that I had to say; that I didn't see any point to
our discussing this in private because I don't see any issue that
needs to be discussed in private. My recommendation to you would
be to take no action on that, but I present it to you for your
consideration. He's asking us to agree to rehear these cases
without the legal issues involved. The property owners involved
have filed a motion to intervene and I have consented to their
intervention. I don't think it is proper for you, the town council,
to rehear these cases without hearing what the judge has to say.
It seems to me that the first thing we ought to do is at least
have one hearing before the judge to resolve who the parties are
and to resolve the legal issues. There are some procedural issues
that the county has raised in the two other lawsuits that were
filed that may well resolve these cases. And there is a legal
issue that I have regarding our town charter and its effect on
adopting the interim plan ... I think the judge may well rule
that it's not proper for these actions to be filed. Once you
file a lawsuit, I think, at least initially, it should be determined
that it's proper that we go to court.
K. Public Comments and Inquiries
1. Elizabeth Tomasi asked who had jurisdiction
over the streets. From Palm Avenue up to Ohio was boarded off
today, she supposed because of the construction of the convention
center. Cars were not allowed to park on the left hand side of
the street as they always have. Access to the Estero Island Beach
Club was not allowed. Does the town have jurisdiction or is it
still the jurisdiction of the county?
As of today, Attorney Roosa replied, the town
has jurisdiction. However, we have delegated that authority to
the county because we have already paid the taxes. When your
tax bill went out, you paid the county to perform that service.
That's just for this year? Mr. Roosa was asked, and he replied,
yes.
2. Tom Baker advised that a sign had been put up
on Furrow Street last week stating "Private Property, No
Public Access." Mr. Baker said he didn't know who put the
sign up and he feels it is an invasion of their rights. When
the condo Surf Song was built, the variance that was given to
allow it to build to the edge of the street also stated that there
would never be restrictions to the beach. Somebody was stopping
people and telling them they couldn't go through. Mr. Baker tried
to get names, but no one would volunteer names.
Another matter brought up by Mr. Baker was Bridge
Restaurant noise. His family couldn't hold a birthday party because
of the noise coming across the bay from Bridge Restaurant. It
happened last week and the weekend before. Mr. Baker feels it
is time something is done to stop this. If he only has to call
the sheriff, he will do so.
A third matter is with respect to Times Square
and the CRA. He has looked at all the CRA classifications and
thinks they are very nice. Access has been restricted and there
is only room for one semi to go through. He feels that if traffic
were restricted immediately to certain hours of the day, as in
some other cities he has visited, it would be of great benefit
to all the sub contractors.
Mr. Fitzsimons said that as a member of the CRA,
he knows that for years the timing of deliveries has been a discussion
item, especially when the Times Square area is being used as a
pedestrian mall. Nothing, however, was ever resolved by the CRA
local committee and perhaps it should be passed on to them for
their further evaluation.
3. Another resident advised that the "Jet
Ski" ordinance was an incorrect term and that the ordinance
covered all water craft.
4. In answer to a question posed by resident Don
Sadler, Garr Reynolds explained that as spelled out in their charter,
the town manager does the hiring of staff with the approval of
the council.
5. Elizabeth Tomasi complained about the noise
generated by the bicycle shop on her street. Garr Reynolds told
her that the Sheriff's Office are the enforcers and she should
go to them with any complaints.
IX ADJOURNMENT
Ted Fitzsimons adjourned the meeting at 9:45 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Lorraine Calhoun
Recording Secretary
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